In this very first edition of the PES Podcast, the Austrian PES Managing Director Johannes Kopf, current chair of the PES Network, reflects on 2020, the most challenging in the PES Network’s history. How did the pandemic effect the work of European PES? How did they react to the developments in their labour markets and what lessons can be learned from this crisis? Find the answers to these questions - and a lot more - in the first PES Podcast!

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