WAR IN UKRAINE - United States suspension of all military aid to Ukraine / EC President von der Leyen propositions on Defence / Position of Hungary / GOVSATCOM: Q&A
Hello Stefan,
I want to ask about President Trump's decision to temporarily suspend
aid for Ukraine.
That we just learned about um
how do you assess this decision because it's
going to have great implications for the country.
Do you think it's helpful for the negotiations and do you think the European Union
can make up for the absence of American assistance at this stage,
even if it becomes a permanent suspension?
Thank you very much for this question.
I don't think it's up to us to comment on
decisions or announcements that are made on the other side of
the Atlantic.
What I think remains extremely important is the unwavering support
of the European Union towards our friends in Ukraine.
to look at the
the important amounts of financial support that
we have provided to Ukraine and we continue
to provide to Ukraine
to see that we put our money where our mouth is.
We
have
supported Ukraine with 150 billion.
I'm sorry,
excuse me,
we are support,
we are offering quite some important support to
the European Union,
including
through
I meant 140 billion,
excuse me,
which includes 50 billion in military support and we have trained more.
73,000 Ukrainian troops,
this solidarity remains extremely important.
You have seen the important meetings that have taken place in London,
the many statements that have been made,
and if one thing is extremely clear,
it is this unity
that continues to be very strong to support our Ukrainian friends.
Thank you.
Yes,
but it's still not clear if you think you are ready as the European Union
to fulfill,
to fill this gap that the American could leave behind.
how much military support are you expecting to provide Ukraine this year and is the
High Representative still planning to move ahead with
her new special plan to ramp up.
support for Ukraine.
On the first issue,
what I would,
I would like to draw your attention to the letter that the President
of the European Commission has sent to the members of the European Commission
calling for more spending,
better spending and spending together in the area of defense,
and this is very important.
The president has laid down has presented.
Her ideas which will feed into the discussions that will
take place with the leaders on the 6th of March
and then we will see how things will be taken forward.
With regard to the HRVP um I call Anouar.
and thank you
for the question,
the High Representative has put forward a new defense initiative
to support Ukraine with more ammunition in the short term.
What I can say is that there was broad political support for the initiative
at the last Foreign Affairs Council and
that this issue remains under active discussion
ahead of the European Council.
Thank you.
Any other questions on this?
Yes.
Actually,
Valeria Paskov,
the public broadcaster of Ukraine,
so will the EU be able to replace all the US military assistance for Ukraine,
especially antiballistic air defense systems such
as Patriots and missiles to them,
intelligence data,
and starlings,
which are essential for Ukraine on the battlefield,
and one more probably
about the
Hungary,
which was blocked,
the military assistance package for Ukraine,
the political reported in the morning.
Maybe you have some alternatives to this package which is worth €20 billion.
maybe you have some decision how to
bypass the Hungarian veto thanks.
thank you very much.
Maybe I would like to draw your attention to again the letter that President
von der Leyen has sent to the uh different heads of state to.
Feed the debate that will take place on the 6th of March and
where a letter in which the president proposes the rearm Europe plan,
you will see that one of the first pillars is to establish new
financial EU instruments to support member
states in boosting their defense capabilities.
this,
system would provide member states with loans backed by the EU budget,
for an amount of up to €150
billion.
an instrument and funding that can be used for priority capabilities,
including air and missile defense,
artillery systems,
missiles and ammunition,
and so on.
So I think a very important message that is passed here by the president
is that we have to speed up,
reinforce,
have better and more
defense spending,
and we will help member states to do that.
On the question
on your second question,
I call Thomas.
Thanks,
Stefan,
and indeed to add to what Stefan said,
we also have EDF,
ASAP,
and EDI,
for example,
that EDP is still pending with the
co-legislators where we will also invest and innovate
in new technologies and capabilities also in the defense sector.
So we're already working on that also for the last
years now when it comes to Starlink and your question,
I mean.
We are working very hard on Iris Square now fully with you.
Iris Squared will be fully operational only by 2030.
So in the meantime we're setting up an
alternative solution which is the so-called Gov SATCOM,
which is basically a pooling and sharing of existing
satellite capabilities within member states already existing capabilities.
Ukraine has expressed its interest in the benefits of Gov Satcom,
and we're currently looking into this indeed.
Thank you very much Thomas.
Yes.
for the Italian newspaper,
I have to be quite
uh surprised that
having such a historical announcement
by President Trump.
You say that you have no comments.
By the way,
you have plenty of commentaries from the other side of Washington,
so it's not that you never comment on what Washington says.
So are you really not commenting on the fact that the main ally,
has been the main ally
of Europe and the main
supporter of Ukraine is now
going away?
You really have nothing to say,
not even that you regret it,
that you're worried that you hope.
That
the polls can be over,
so nothing at all.
Thank you.
I can restate or replain or say again what I
said before that we are stepping up our efforts and
stepping up these efforts is translated in many steps.
An important step
is,
for instance,
the announcement of the rearm Europe proposal
that the president made this morning.
And which uh will offer
substantial,
which will help member states to offer substantial support to Ukraine,
a country that needs our support very much
follow up.
Sorry,
but this is practical,
it is just an answer to what you are going to do,
but there is no political comment on the issue.
I can again say what we say.
We stand with Ukraine.
We know that it is important to support Ukraine also in its defense,
also to make sure that it's in a better negotiation place,
and we are putting our money where our mouth is
by making the very important proposal that the president has just done now,
and we'll see how things will evolve.
Angela Skujins from TVP World.
When can journalists ask the European Commission President
Ursula von der Leyen questions about her REARM Europe plan?
She wasn't taking questions at the press conference today,
and this is a significant announcement.
So when,
when is that opportunity going to be presented to journalists?
Thank you very much.
I think you have seen the past that the president
has already taken questions and continues to take questions,
so there is nothing new
here.
we,
in the meantime,
if you have any questions,
do not hesitate to reach out to us,
but I believe that opportunities have been given and will continue to be given to
make sure that there's a good understanding
of all the important work that's ongoing.
Yes
Thank You
Raziye Akkoc from AFP news agency,
I really just want to jump onto that point.
We weren't given the opportunity to ask questions about an announcement,
and right now you've said that some of what the US decisions are political,
so you can see why some of us might be confused that you're saying
that you can't provide the answers and
then the politicians can't provide the answers,
and I think it's really not appropriate
and the way that we do our work,
it just doesn't work like that.
Thank you very much.
I think we're trying every day to help you handling or replying to your questions,
which are extremely important,
and we do our best to service you as much as possible.
One of the things that we are doing,
for instance,
to help you with this,
because indeed this is a very important step or proposal.
is to offer a technical briefing with one of the
hotshots of the European Commission that will help you all
with a better understanding
of what is behind the
behind the proposal,
how things are planned to be to work out,
etc.
So we continue to do that work as much as we can.
David
Thank you,
Stefan.
I'm going to
Try in French,
see if we get an answer.
I've got 3 questions.
One,
the first is very direct.
Does the European Commission feel that right now,
does the President of the Commission feel that right now the US
with the Trump administration and the decisions they're taking or have taken,
is it still an ally?
Second question.
This
is a follow up to questions which have been asked just now by my colleagues.
Secondly,
As I said,
this is a follow up.
Ukraine will no longer be receiving military aid
from the United States,
so this is a
straightforward question.
According to the planning,
which I hope I'm not sure,
but I hope you have
done this within the EEAS and the EDF and
Within the commission.
Or whatever.
Will the Europeans be
capable of
sending the missiles,
interceptors,
and so on,
which are necessary to protect Ukrainian citizens and cities now
and not
when the new instrument and the 150 billion
become available for member states to assist Ukraine.
And a third question which I asked yesterday,
in fact,
Mrs.
von der Leyen said.
Quite clearly that all of this is very urgent.
Why in that case did the president
Wait until March 2025 to make these proposals
rather than having presented them say in June of 2024
when according to the conclusions of the European Council of March 2024,
she should have done that.
Thank you.
OK,
quite a bit,
and I'll reply
in French,
although the reply will be similar.
First of all,
a word about the USA,
the United States are an ally,
as the president reasserted once again today.
Secondly,
your question as to the assistance we can provide Ukraine right now.
I would draw your attention once again to the letter which the president wrote
to the heads of state
where she stated quite clearly.
It's time to meet the moment.
It's important to mobilize significant
levels of resources to assist our Ukrainian friends.
And this is precisely
what
the rearm Europe proposal.
I intended to do and on the other questions,
perhaps
you could await the technical briefing.
Our experts may be able to give you more details then
your third question,
which I know you did ask yesterday.
I think Paula replied to that question yesterday.
Quite a number of things
happened,
of course,
between June of last year and the present day.
The new commission.
Geopolitical developments.
The difference.
The importance of defense.
was already stressed by the president some time ago,
but of course in the light of more recent
Developments.
The Commission now,
for example,
via the ReArm Europe proposal has
retabled a very,
very important proposal which will allow member states to
face up to all of these challenges and
to invest more in defense because this is something
which the European Union needs and which Ukraine of course needs as well,
so the work is ongoing.
You have a follow up,
David.
Yes,
I have a follow up on your response that you gave me yesterday on the new commission.
Now,
the commission is an institution.
It's not just
A political body,
quote unquote.
There's a
continuity of this institution.
So I don't understand or I would like for you
to tell me how it's possible that an institution.
In wartime,
Would stop working
on a topic that's so important
because we're waiting for the new cycle,
the incoming commission elections so on and so forth.
What's happening is a war on European territory.
It's happening now.
What are we waiting for?
Are we waiting for tanks to enter the European Union?
Now European leaders,
the council,
not I.
have already
Asked
the president to do something in March of 2024.
First,
I do care about your opinion,
David,
and secondly,
I said that the European Union has supported Ukraine
with €140 billion.52 billion of those were in military aid,
so
we really started working on this
uh immediately following the invasion.
We have been there from the start to support our Ukrainian friends
with financial support,
with military support.
This work
is ongoing and has been ongoing
since the beginning of the invasion,
since the beginning of this war of aggression,
and so the work has not been interrupted.
Of course,
in the meantime
we have seen developments,
we have had elections in the US,
for example.
We have new geopolitical challenges to deal with,
and it's important that the commission continue to do
this work,
which it has done from the beginning of the war,
that the commission continues to respond in an
appropriate manner to the challenges at hand,
for example,
the rearm proposal that the president made this morning.
Thank you.
Angela Mauro of Post Italy,
thanks for the opportunity.
I have 3 questions.
The Councilor
President Zelenskyy, Podolia just said
that we are discussing with European partners on how to substitute the American
military aids.
What do you reply
to this?
So I'm taking it from the other side.
As you mentioned it before,
I don't know,
maybe this is a question for the technical briefing,
but you mentioned before the 150 billion loans
the President was talking talks about in a letter to the Member States.
If you can just tell us what it,
what it is,
if it is a sure
2.0 or common debt or the use of the remaining from the recovery.
Facility,
and the third question is
about the White Paper on defense.
Will it be actually presented on 19 March,
as
we knew,
or it is postponed to the following week?
Thanks.
Thank you very much on your first question.
Well,
I reiterate what I have said before.
It's the fact that the president has stressed on many occasions
that the European Union needs to spend more,
needs to spend better,
and needs to spend together
on defense
to help
our friends in Ukraine.
And the last step and a very important step which has been taken
is the rearm proposal proposed by the president,
which will be discussed by the heads of state and which is
a very important sign again to show our solidarity with Ukraine.
your second question,
I would suggest that we discuss this question during,
the technical briefing
where much smarter people than myself will be able to,
to help you.
on the last question on the white paper,
you know that this has been announced in the list that as we see in beautiful English,
the provisional calendar,
it is there,
of course,
you always have to bear in mind that this is a provisional indicative calendar,
and that changes are always possible,
but for now indeed it has been planned to be adopted on the 19th of March.
Thank you.
And then go to that side of the room,
yes.
Two questions.
The first is for Tom,
I think.
Can you
tell us what the time horizon would be for
this to become operational and whether it will genuinely replace
Starlink.
More generally,
the presidents gave some hefty figures this morning,
600 billion
or $800 billion 600 billion of which would come from an increase
on the expenditure side of 1.5% of.
Of GDP of the member states,
I'm just wondering what the basis was for these figures which you gave us.
Have the member states agreed to do this?
Why 1.5%?
Why not 2.5%,
and why this
announcement of this large figure?
Thank you.
I'll take the second question and you take the first one.
Well,
on the second question,
I think the president was giving
an example in her declaration this morning when she said for example,
if the member states were to
Increase their defense.
Expenditure with 1.5% this could
open up possibilities.
For the funding of about 650 billion over a four year period.
So this is an example
the president was
giving to
display the importance of
the proposal
she made.
In rearm.
So this is as a possibility for member states.
It's obviously up to the member states to determine to what extent
this could be of assistance to them
in their needed defense.
Investments,
on the Gulf
this should allow us to use
existing satellite resources and capability in the case of France,
Germany,
Italy,
Luxembourg,
and so on,
and to ensure that the other member
states and other potential partners such as Ukraine
could benefit from these services.
So Gov Satcom will be deployed
this year.
We want to do this as rapidly and
efficiently as possible,
but
it's difficult to be more
specific in terms of timing than this year.
It would be very,
very
competitive compared to Starlink,
and that they were talking about Iris Squared in particular,
and
there has been a signing today and we're very advanced with Gov Satcom,
of course,
and that should allow us
to deal with phenomena such as Ukraine is faced with right now.
Thank you.
I see some other further questions,
Lorenzo,
and then I'll take a number of questions online.
Well,
the problem
is that Starlink has low orbits.
And therefore,
it has a type of performance that we can't uh achieve with Gov Satcom.
Is there any uh
plan
for uh Iris square?
Because if we don't have that,
we'll run into problems.
The Americans have Starlink.
Well,
currently we're faced with a reality where we're
doing what we can based on our capabilities.
That's the reality and our capacity is high,
which is a good thing.
It's a very good thing.
Now,
the question is how to use,
how to best use our resources to deal with the situation at hand.
So we have the capacity,
we will use it.
Now it's true that Iris Squared
has a
timeline we will be deploying its first services at the end of this year.
It will be fully operational by 2030.
Now it's possible that we will reach full operationalization before 2030,
but I would like to say that our capacity currently
is very high and we'll use it to the best.
Thank you very much.
I will take some more questions,
but I would like to give journalists the opportunity
to ask questions on other topics as well.
And in any case,
we will have a technical briefing which will start at 3 o'clock.
who has been raising his hand for half an hour almost.
Thanks.
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OK,
now,
now it should be,
just one comment on behalf of our API and colleagues is,
it was mentioned on Rearm Europe,
but it's also yesterday on the,
CO2 for cars,
the automotive
industry's a statement
on a really important issue
where there's no details later,
and it's frustrating for colleagues to,
to report on that.
I have a question myself.
on for Anouar; Anna-Kaisa,
I don't know if we're moving to other issues now,
David,
I will park your car for a second.
Let me give you the opportunity to one or
two more questions on what we're discussing now,
and then we go to uh.
Yes.
Mr Stefan Jerome Hughes here.
Just on the subject that we're discussing,
we've talked about the political consensus or agreement
in terms of the incumbent politicians,
but
I'm just wondering,
is the President confident
that there will be public support for such an eye-watering amount of money,
because we've already talked about a lot of figures
here already that have already been paid out,
but when you're looking at a fund approaching 800 billion.
It's massive,
and
in this context,
I recall the latest figures from Eurostat.
On the subject of
being at risk of poverty or social exclusion.
I think the figure is 95 million people in the EU,
that's 21% of the population.
So really we've already seen the rise of Eurosceptic
politicians who see it in the European Parliament.
I'm just wondering,
has there been any thought or is there any consideration or even any study
into it from the president's point of view that if this could backfire politically,
that if there's not the public support for such huge amounts of money.
That then
down the road it could damage the actual EU itself
when it comes to general elections and so on.
Is she concerned or is she confident that the support is there?
Thank you very much.
When you look at when you take a look at the recent meetings that
have taken place in the European Union with the different heads of state,
it is very clear that there is a very strong support.
From all member states,
from all heads of state that we need to do more,
that we need to do better,
and that we need to do more together in the area of defense.
So it is a very strong
consensus that we feel all across the European Union.
What the president is doing now is to meet the
moment as she has set the letter and bring forward
a proposal
that will help
the member states that will help the European Union.
To live up to this moment
and now it is up to the member states,
the discussion that will take place on the 6th of
March to see how things can be taken forward,
but the proposal of the president is a translation.
shows
a way for member states to indeed
help them with um actually implementing this very important
uh consensus there is to um have more and better defense
spending.
OK,
I will take one last question on this,
and then we go to
to other topics.
Yes
I see Portugal,
so there is no fresh money in the sense that there are no grants in this
defense package,
so I only see
loans,
and also
what President von der Leyen is asking is,
in general for the Member States or for the
different Member States to go into more debt,
and we are talking about 800 billion debt to.
Rear Europe.
So is this a new logic,
because this was not the logic back when
we had the pandemic
and more money was needed
for the recovery.
So is this the new logic?
Europe needs
to
go into debt in order to rearm itself.
You will find that the proposed rearm is
quite broad and wide and important proposal,
but I would suggest that we discuss this topic during the technical briefing,
so keep your question and we'll be happy to get back to you.
Just one last try for a political
question.
still on what
the United States decided yesterday,
Were you informed
about this decision
before it was announced,
and are you very simple questions like yes,
no,
are you worried about the fact that the United
States is not going to help Ukraine tomorrow?
what matters in,
the current situation is that we stand united and
firm and strong and in full solidarity with Ukraine,
and that is what we're doing.
That's exactly what we're doing,
for instance,
through this very important we are proposal.
All right,
listen,
I see that
John
Volicelli,
you had raised your hands
on this topic,
you'll be the last one,
and then we take other questions.
Sorry.
me
I hear you,
but I don't see you.
I don't know why.
video select camera
this 10 yes,
there you are,
hey.
Yeah
I have a question on this,
what's going on?
sorry,
a final question
about this satellite thing because I'm not
sure,
I caught Thomas' answer
entirely.
If I understand correctly,
Gov Satcom is about secure communications,
especially governmental communications.
Starlink
has been used for 2 years
to
Steer drones
on a battlefield
to attack military targets.
I want to know,
I mean,
I would like to know if possible,
if Gov Satcom's capabilities.
are apt
to sustain such a usage.
Can be used for
the kind of activities such as drone
piloting or
reconnaissance.
Starlink is being used
for right now.
And I'd also like to ask,
is that the same topic
whether
The use of Gov Satcom for military purposes.
would
need the green light of the governments that are part of this Gov Satcom scheme.
So can you just say
Yeah,
Ukraine is going to come for military
activities
without Italy,
Germany,
or France giving their consent.
Thanks.
Very precise questions indeed.
On the second one,
I will have to get back to you.
Indeed,
as you say yourself,
there is a strong member state component here as this
is a pooling and sharing of existing member states' competences.
So there I will get back to you.
On the first one,
hard for me to compare Starlink and
Govs Satcom and what one offers,
and the second one,
indeed Gov Satcom is mainly about secure connectivity.
There again,
I'll get back to you if I have more to share.
Thank you,
and I will now open the floor to other questions on other topics.
if you still have topic questions on this,
don't hesitate to reach out to us or follow the technical briefing,
which I warmly recommend.
Raise your hands if you have other topics,
and I believe that it,
you had a question for Anouar, Anna-Kaisa.