Hello,

Paula,

I want to ask you about the,

the president of the European Commission and the phone call

that she had yesterday with uh President Donald Trump.

There was a bit of confusion afterwards because we saw the

German Chancellor saying that Europe will go ahead with sanctions,

but then Trump said that he will not go ahead with sanctions

and the idea was to coordinate the sanctions with the US.

So is the Commission,

the Commission president ready to move forward with the sanctions that

she previewed last week that we remember Nord Stream Banking.

Etc.

or is she waiting to see some progress on the ground like Donald Trump said?

What are the conditions to move forward with this package?

Well first of all,

I think it's worth saying that yesterday's debrief of the call between

President Trump and President Poutine,

as you know,

President Trump debriefed some European leaders,

including.

President von der Leyen,

this is positive.

It is really the result of consistent efforts and engagement,

as you know,

by

various European leaders,

including

President von der Leyen herself,

to keep

a direct communication with the United States

about the war in Ukraine,

about

ceasefires,

we have been sharing with President Trump the

reading of the situation as far as Europe

is concerned,

and

this debrief also shows the mutual interest

by President Trump in

keeping each other mutually informed.

Now

as regards next steps,

and this is also.

It's been a

good initiative.

It's been

agreed that

there should be direct talks

between Ukraine and Russia

with the participation of European counterparts in the US

to be seen where exactly those talks should take place,

and with regard to the sanctions that you mentioned,

as you know today

in the Foreign Affairs Council,

we expect a the

final adoption of the 17th package of sanctions against Russia,

then

the exact

date for entry into force

of these sanctions depends on the progress achieved in the next days,

and,

in parallel,

we continue

to work on

another package of sanctions,

as was announced by President von der Leyen last week.

You have a follow up,

Jorge.

Yes,

something that you said right now that the 17th package that was adopted today,

the entry into force will depend on the progress on the ground,

so they will not enter into force immediately

as it's usually the case with sanctions.

What is foreseen in the proposal to be adopted today

and when exactly the entry into force will be foreseen.

OK.

Good.

Other questions it's just about the US participation because Trump said

that for the timing he will not move forward with sanctions,

right?

And I remember that last week President

said that she one of the ideas was to lower the

price cap on Russian oil and this requires US participation.

So you said now that the commission,

you know,

we will move forward with the.

Preparation for these sanctions,

will you still include the price cap on oil after what Trump said,

or you are reconsidering what the package will include?

We are engaging with our counterparts also in the

G7 precisely in discussions about such a possible measure,

and so we'll see

whether that can be really also in the form of a G7.

joint,

measure or not,

so it,

it will,

will be seeing in this,

in the next days how it will

then materialize

in,

in a final set of proposed sanctions.

Yes,

please.